On Tuesday, Kim Kardashian made an appearance on Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop podcast and revealed that she would consider more children in the future. The Kardashian‘s star shares four children with ex husband Kanye West, North, 9, Saint, 7, Chicago, 4, and Psalm, 3. Kardashian told Paltrow she will “never say never” to a fifth child.

“I’m obviously right at the end of that conversation,” she added. “I would have to have someone in my life for a while in order to make that decision. So, whatever’s meant to be will be.”

Paltrow then suggested the SKIMS founder looking into egg freezing, but Kardashian is clearly up on her fertility reading, because she responded, “I think embryos are the best way to go.”

She also discussed her past relationships, which includes three marriages — to Damon Thomas, Kris Humphries, and finally West.

“I feel, honestly, [that] my last marriage was my first real [one],” she explained. “The first one, I just don’t know what was happening… The second one, I felt like I wanted to be married so badly because all my friends were at that place and that’s where I should have been.”

She added that she “definitely” wants to get married again, but is “happy to take [her] time” and “soak up every minute of” being single.

Kardashian has mentioned more children before, saying in an Access interview that she has considered having as many children as her mother, Kris Jenner, who tapped out at six. This was while she was in a relationship with comedian Pete Davidson, which ended this past fall. The pair found their schedules were too busy to really see one another once Davidson headed to Australia to film his new movie with Orlando Bloom. He has since been seen back in New York City, and has been romantically linked to model Emily Ratajkowski and Bodies Bodies Bodies co-star Chase Sui Wonders.

Aimée Lutkin is the weekend editor at ELLE.com. Her writing has appeared in Jezebel, Glamour, Marie Claire and more. Her first book, The Lonely Hunter, will be released by Dial Press in February 2022.